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Who is a GRADUATE?

When I see graduates here cry of unemployment, I am not concerned. I become concerned when I see the kind of graduate crying.

What kind of graduate is he? An educated graduate or a certificated graduate?

Are we talking of a graduate who can defend his certificate or the one who can't even pen a simple job application letter in simple English?

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Are we talking of a graduate who was taught but never learned, went to school but was never schooled,...?

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82 comments:

  1. It's interesting to reflect on graduates and unemployment.

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  2. I feel like it's more entitlement than anything else, graduates feel that since they have the 4 year degree they should automatically get a management role even if they do not have true real-world experience.

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    1. thats the point Shantel, more of an entitlement than what its meant to be really.

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  3. I agree with Shantel. And on what can be done to correct this, I don't have a real suggestion because the issue is quite a complicated one. If one ignores the certificated, they'd resort to crime and blame it on the system for not providing them jobs, and when you point out their unemployment to the fact that they are not educated, they shove their certificates in your face thinking you were talking about their certificate when it's obvious that even certificates are being forged sometimes. And this is overlooking the fact that the certificated never attended classes or even sat for tests and exams. They always have a proxy they pay fees to to help them with all that exam and test thingy. *sighs.. I feel mentally drained from the issue. Ew!

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    1. as the soul reason for making this post i am glad you had a say on this , more so agreeing with what shantel had to say on it too. thanks for the inspiration to write this.

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  4. It's difficult entering the job field with no experience, right out of college, in a recession....people need to be prepared to take jobs not in their field just to put food on the table.

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    1. yes Kari, most times we just got to do what we have to do to put food on our tables.

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  5. Interesting share. My daughter will graduate from college next year and will be facing the job market.

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    1. aw!!!, my best wishes and regards to her... success to her as she gets there soon.

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  6. Graduate or not, one has to be willing to work hard.

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  7. I think work ethic is probably the biggest issue whether or not you have a degree from a college.

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    1. hmmm, well said, most people dont think to this point you noted out here, thanks for your contribution Heater.

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  8. Yes there are some graduates who think they have a accomplished a lot but this is just part of what you need to do in your career.

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  9. One should ready to put effort and work hard.

    Rita | http://www.styleroundtheclock.com

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    1. effort, hardwork and dedication.. nice points Rita.

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  10. This is a very interesting conversation to start especially since its political season where our future leaders will hopefully be ready and willing to listen to any changes that people want/need made if any.

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    1. yes sondra, hopefully changes will be made to alot of systems.

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  11. Um...I am a college graduate and I found difficulty finding a job in my field. I studied English/Literature. It can be frustrating to graduate from college and not find a career.

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    1. thats a very hard part of life, graduating and yet not getting the career we went in to study for... all the best Jennifer as you finally did but though was hard.

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  12. Getting a job is very difficult for everyone nowadays, and sometimes having a graduate certificate helps, but for some reason I find although I have a certificate, I still get the same results. Good take on this issue.

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    1. am glad i see someone who relates to this post on both sides, thanks Editor for this.

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  13. A degree or certificate is a wonderful starting point. Next step is experience.

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  14. Everyone can define their own definition.

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  15. I am not a graduate and though I am not proud of it, I am not ashamed of it either. I may not be a graduate but I earn more than my classmates who graduated. I live a life I am totally satisfied with and I enjoy every bits of it! :)

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    1. satisfaction and contempt is always key in the lifes of people. and yes, i like your courage and how good you have become even at not being a graduate.

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    1. a true one, as this happens all day all night in our society.

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  17. I didn't think you have to be a graduate to to become successful. Im not a graduate and I declare myself successful! 😄 hard work and determination is what you need. Ree Love30

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    1. your self believe and declaration is inspiring. go girl.

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  18. This is interesting! I think graduated and doing experience are both import. However, sometimes you can not learn from books certain situations in the workplace. X

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  19. Education is only one part of the story. I have a team of 8 people and with turnover I have to recruit regularly. While I do like to see a degree (or above) on a CV it is certainly not the be all and end all. Experience and attitude counts for so much more.

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  20. Credentials are important, but nowadays much more comes into place to get a job. Education is just one part. I believe a lot of it is also personal preference of the employer. If you really like someone's personality, but they don't have the required credentials...It can be challenging to hire correctly.

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  21. i believe that education at school and universities are just a stepping stone for you to achieve what career you want.. it is a continious process of learning and we should never stop.

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  22. Definitely an interesting topic. Never thought about this this way before. You can't learn everything in school, but unfortunately you need to have a diploma in order to become somebody in this world. Sad actually!

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    1. noted Filipa. but in some cases not all though.

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  23. It's all about the context. A graduate where? Which school? etc. And which kind of subject/ course is very important as well. And besides, there are so many ways to learn things.. We learn every day!

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    1. well said, but yet alot of people will give a judgement to this based on the question that comes to mind with this. educated or certificated.

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  24. Even non graduates are successful in life! It is the attitude that matters often. But then for some some jobs being a graduate in true sense of the word matters... for example being a teacher.

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    1. yes, teaching is one very sensitive part of it all. you are so right for pointing it out.

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  25. Interesting points to think about.Here in South Africa we also have a high unemployment rate.

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  26. Interesting points to think about.Here in South Africa we also have a high unemployment rate.

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  27. There's a quote -- never let school get in the way of your education. I think motivation and drive matter more than degree. All about persistence :D

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    1. never let school get in the way of your education... this quote sticks with me all the time.

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  28. I'm not a graduate but I don't think it is about having a diploma or not, or if you learned something in school or not. A true graduate is someone who can survive in the adult world. Someone who knows how to make it. For me, that is what true graduate is. Diploma is just a piece of paper.

    xoxo, G
    http://moreliketwins.com

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  29. I understand but I think it's difficult to get a job without a college degree in this day and age.

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  30. It's a serious matter in Italy as well. It's not given that once you get graduatd yu manage to get a job.

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    1. thats it , same almost everywhere in the world ecept those who get the loads of funds and manipulate their way up/.

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  31. I am joining the force to be a graduate soon and surely dont want to end up crying for unemployment.

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  32. I believe that true education and knowledge can we learned outside the school, by getting involved to the community.

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  33. I think credentials are an important part of anyone's career but they are not enough. There is a lot more that is required to be a graduate in an actual sense.

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  34. I recently had the chance to interview someone who works in the labor field and we discussed how many unemployed graduates there are, and how they are really trying to encourage people to consider trades again, and not necessarily push everyone into an academic degree. I think it really makes sense to position trades as higher prestige - they can be really great careers.

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  35. Your views on this issue are really insightful. Many of you pointed out education as a stepping stone and I am glad you did point out "education" instead of "certificate". Don't get me wrong. Certificates are nice since they are a result for a formal education but my point is most people get certificates they never even merited. They are the type who never really understood what was being taught but who got a certificate at the end of the day like everyone else simply because they know their way around greasing palms. I also agree with a number of people who mentioned that one does not really need a formal education to get ahead in life. That's true. But I hope we still remember what common sense means? I hope we can recall that with common sense to be able to piece two different patterns together, we can't really get ahead in life. Both formal and informal education are hinged on common sense. And this common sense is what money can't buy even though it can buy certificate most times. Now the thing is, those I prefer to call the certificated think having a certificate is the same thing as being educated.

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  36. Sorry, I meant "without common sense to be able to piece...."

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  37. It's sad when people who deserved a job can't find any because someone who has a rich family and better connections has taken it.

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